Louis Quail

Louis Quail is a UK based documentary photographer. Louis has worked extensively for some of the UK's best known magazines and has been published and worked internationally over a period of many years. Louis increasingly devotes his time to personal, long-term projects. In this interview Louis shares his project Big Brother, an intimate photographic portrayal of his brother Justin’s struggle with schizophrenia. You can purchase a copy of the book, published by Dewi Lewis, on Louis' website.

What is your background in photography? How would you describe your career path and yourself as a photographer?

I was an editorial photographer for many years working for the Telegraph, Times, Marie Claire and so forth. Perhaps always a bit frustrated by the need to pay the bills I never really gave my self much room to explore work in any depth. This changed with my first big project desk job exploring globalisation through office life around the world. Big Brother is a continuation of a need to make projects with depth which are driven by an impulse to explore issues which I really care about and where there is the space to say something with originality.

Can you tell us how the project Big Brother came about and why you started to photograph Justin?

When I started this book it was shortly after mother died. Part of me would like to have photographed her, she also had schizophrenia, but I didn’t feel comfortable at that point in my career, I thought I might be exploiting my relationship on some level. When I started working on this book I was older and more confident in the idea that it is really important to give people like Justin a voice. I have come to believe worse than being intruded upon is to be ignored, Justin is at the bottom of the rung in society, this book gives him a voice.

At home in Mortlake, London.
Justin’s conditions means he is often feeling depressed. He oscillates between highs and lows; often the lows are attributed to high doses of drugs to control the behavior associated with the highs. Sometimes however he is just down or exhausted from lack of sleep. He hates taking the drugs complaining they create a “fog” that makes life like “wading through mud”.
Justin's level of organization and his ability to focus seems to have deteriorated as he gets older; keeping his room clean is a major challenge despite regular visits from cleaners.
Justin, photographed at his girlfriend's flat in East Sheen.
Justin’s continued visits to the now abandoned Mereway Day Centre are a testament to its hold on him. It was his go-to drop in centre for 23 years (and for our mother). Its closure around 2007 comes against a backdrop of government cuts within the mental health industry (including other favourites for Justin such as the Level Crossing and Centre 32 ) which if anything has been accelerating in recent years.

What pushed you to turn the project into a book?

The main reason to make this book is to challenge stigma, which is pervasive in our society in the UK and beyond. We expect stigma in mainstream society and nine out of ten people who suffer with mental illness says stigma makes their life worse. Simply not being treated decently, fairly or like an equal causes all sorts of negative outcomes for those who suffer from it. But perhaps more of a surprise is the way that stigma in some way is built in to the systems we use to manage our mentally ill. For example, risk assessments made by the mental health team by process are stigmatising, if we look for the worst case scenario from our mentally ill, we run the risk of demonising them.

This book challenges stigma by showing the life of an individual in all the light and shade; someone who suffers with their mental health but is not defined by it. We have moved mountains challenging stigma around physical disabilities, but mental health is still a remote area for many — misunderstood, ghettoised. We need the book to really get to grips with Justin’s life with real depth. We show some of Justin’s difficulties but also celebrate his success and contributions found in his relationship and his passions for art and bird watching. The message is mental health is part of us but it is not all of us.

How does Justin feel about the project? How on board is he with being photographed?

Justin’s thoughts on the project seem to change with his health and sense of well being. Sometimes he is excited to be part of it and supportive but at other times especially when he is down he lacks any sort of meaningful interest . One of the drivers for me is that I see there is an opportunity with this work to give Justin the chance to feel he is making an impact in the world, to give him a voice and to build self esteem. There have been many times when Justin has not been in the mood to be photographed and he has let me know this quite forcefully. However, he has never once asked me to to desist from making the book and over a period of years he has had the opportunity [to do that]. I think this stems from a deep human need to be seen.

At the same time this work is personal. There is no point making a body of work if its not going to be serious in intent and meaningful and to do that requires honesty and integrity. Part of this process I realised quite soon, involved me using Justin’s medical and police records so I could really get to grips with the parts of Justin’s life that could not be easily photographed. Although he understands this and accepts it (for him it is part of his daily life and does not concern him as it might others) and he understands why I am making this book, he is more apathetic about how it might change anything. In a way I’m fighting this apathy by encouraging Justin’s involvement. I am passionate about showing Justin’s life and fighting stigma. Deep down Justin trusts me and my instincts in the making of the book. With this trust comes a huge responsibility to make sure his has a positive experience.

The project is multi-layered using photographs of Justin, but also his art, medical and police records. How do you think this creates a wider and perhaps clearer picture of Justin’s story (and perhaps others experience of living with schizophrenia)?

Photography has limitations. Early on I knew I had to find other ways to tell Justin’s story. I can photograph Justin from the outside but the medical records allow me to get much closer to how he thinks. Written up medical and social service reports act like a series of interviews; revealing the nature of the illness and Justin’s inner thoughts. Equally, the police reports are working on a similar level. Witness statements from police officers detailing conversations made with Justin and his girlfriend Jackie are a brilliant aid to story telling the events during some of Justin’s most difficult moments.

What is surprising is how much of political planning at the top of society feeds down directly into Justin’s life: cuts to social care and police budgets and privatisation of housing care are all revealed in his interactions with the police and the associated records, so it’s important to have them. Most importantly though the police we see act like a third person in the relationship with his girlfriend (spoiler alert!). Their impulse is to separate them so the problems in their relationship go away. The question, will the relationship survive, this is something that drives the narrative.

Justin’s art and poetry in particular are hugely important, they give insight into his thoughts about his illness and the system that manages him. It’s been fantastic that I can use the book to give space to his compelling creative expression.

Justin's paintings often feature boats and very often birds. Mixed media on paper.
Painting inspired by the song ‘I am the God of Hell fire’ (The Crazy World of Arthur Brown).
A painting inspired by the the song I am the God of hell Fire, from The Crazy World of Arthur Brown
Self portrait.

How does it feel when you’re making these photographs? What do you think about and how does photography help you connect to the emotion of the moment?

Normally When I’m spending time with Justin I’m fire fighting a problem, cleaning his flat calling social services visiting A and E, even; being practical. When I look at the pictures, later, on my own, is often when I get emotional about his condition. The photographs help me see the huge problems, Justin has had to deal with in his life; they are written into the shape of his face.

Doing this project has allowed me to think of and relate to Justin in a different way. I can understand and empathise with him from a different place and with deeper understanding. What this book has really taught me though is that Justin is hugely resilient, he is a survivor and the take away for the audience is that his passion for bird watching has been an integral part of his survival process, a form of self medication if you like.

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Jodie Beardmore

Jodie Beardmore is a photographer based in Huddersfield (UK), currently studying in her final year at The University of Huddersfield. Jodie draws inspiration from photographers such as Francesca Woodman and Brooke Shaden and has created an on-going series based on and inspired by her diagnosis with depression. The images are "set in a world bordering between dream and nightmare, similar to what you would experience when you are mentally ill. The imagery follows a narrative of my recovery caught between the world of the imagination and reality."

What first attracted you to photography and how did your photographic interests develop over time?

I became interested in photography after assisting on a fashion photo-shoot at a huge manor house that my uncle was working at as a gardener. I was ten years old and I remember enjoying it so much that I knew it was something I wanted to pursue.

I started out photographing still life and landscapes but eventually developed my own tastes and style, as I grew older, going on to study photography at college and university. Whilst studying I became inspired by portraiture, fashion, surrealism and the world of fantasy.

How did this series of images come about?

This series began as a coping mechanism. In 2016 I was diagnosed with depression and I lost interest in everything, so much so that I had to defer a year of my university course to recover. In this time I forced myself to go out and rediscover my former passion of photography. I started to create self portraits based around my mental illness. I wasn’t always pleased with the results and my motivation was still suffering but gradually I improved and my work became something I was really proud of.

What is it about surrealistic photography that excites you?

The fact it can be anything you want it to be, there are no rules or expectations. You can just let your imagination run wild. Through exploring the extraordinary I am able to understand the ordinary. It’s been comforting in how others can understand what's going through my mind by depicting these emotions in imagery.

How has creating these images helped with your experiences of anxiety and depression?

It's helped me to understand myself a lot more, not just as someone who suffers with mental illness but also as a person. Before my diagnosis I would limit myself to photography I wasn’t particularly interested in as I was worried about what people would think of me, if I created the pieces I wanted to. I had an unhealthy desire to be liked and to fit in which prevented me from being myself. However since I’ve become less concerned with this and become completely open about who I am, I’ve noticed a significant improvement in my photography, had a lot more opportunities and I’ve even had people come up and tell me I’m inspiring, which is a fantastic feeling.

What is your creative process like? Talk us through one of your images, from the idea to execution.

Many of my ideas are inspired by locations, or a feeling, emotion already within me. For my piece ‘Nest’ which is one of the first images I created for this series, depicts the lowest point in my depression. I wanted to portray my vulnerability and comfort within my nest (home), hidden away from reality. The wings protruding out of my back, lay broken representing the fight or flight of anxiety.

I spent weeks with my mother collecting sticks over the fields near us and then stitching them together at home to form a human sized nest. My dad then helped me transfer the nest over to a studio in Manchester where two photographers (Tonie Moran & Anthony Moran) who I worked with on my placement year helped me to setup and execute the image. I was originally going to pose in a nude leotard but the image just wasn’t working so I bravely removed the clothing, revealing my body which is something I’ve never been happy with. I wanted to do it though as this work is so important to me and in assisting the reduction of the stigma of mental illness being a weakness when it is actually more a strength.

What do you hope your work stirs in viewers?

I hope it makes people understand mental illness more, as not only can your mind be a terrifying place to live but it can also be one of the most wonderful. These worlds I have created allow me to face my inner demons, however they allow me to see the beauty in my mind as well. Photography has become a form of escapism from reality for me but also a way of dealing with it.

What are you working on now?

I am still currently working on this project as part of my final major project at university. You can follow my progress of this series of work on my Instagram @jbeardmorephoto_. The end product will be a photo book, which eventually I am hoping to publish.

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Max Herridge

Max Herridge is a photographer based in London, UK, currently studying for a BA in Photography from University of the Arts London. Max identifies as non-binary and has self-diagnosed anxiety. In Surface Max's work focuses on anxiety and how reality can be experienced.

You're a current University of the Arts London Photography student — what is it that attracted you to photography to begin with?

My relationship with photography has changed a lot since buying my first DSLR four years ago. Photography was definitely a hobby to begin with; it wasn’t until about 18 months ago that I realised the power of the photographic image and how it can be used to make a statement. I began taking portraits of my friends and became excited by photography as a way to create interesting aesthetics and things that seemed almost surreal. When I started university, I decided it was time to start making more work for myself, rather than my Instagram audience, and use the creative freedom I have to express my thoughts, feelings and beliefs.

How did your project Surface come about?

It was part of a university assignment in which we were asked to create work under the title of ‘Image and Reality’. My interpretation of this was to explore the way in which people perceive reality differently. I considered how my own anxiety affects the way in which I experience the world and decided to confront the task of creating a visual to demonstrate an issue that is, for the most part, invisible. The Fragmentary site was very helpful in my research for the project as it was great to see what had already been achieved in mental health photographic practice.

What was your reasoning behind asking your Tumblr followers to respond with their own visual descriptions of mental health? Did it influence how you created the images for Surface?

I had put out a post to my 40,000+ Tumblr followers a long time ago, regarding a different project about mental illness that never came to fruition and decided to use this resource again to get a variety of different interpretations of anxieties, outside of my own experience. The responses I received described anxiety as a visual and one theme was apparent in many of the replies: water. The associations between anxiety and water varied greatly with some describing it for its destructive properties of drowning and flooding, whilst others viewed it as calming and relaxing. My own experience of water in relation to anxiety links to the latter idea, as a bottle of water and the movements of its contents calm me when its most needed. The piece of work exists as three sets of three images that begin at a broad landscape and finish on a macro shot of something that appears in the middle image, illustrating how things may intensify as anxiety arises.

Has photography changed your relationship with anxiety at all? Does it provide respite or further understanding of your experience?

This project certainly helped me to look at my anxiety more objectively. Presenting the work to my tutor group at university, not only in the final presentation but also in the weekly progress meetings, was an anxious experience for me and certainly helped me to overcome some of the anxiety I had about talking in front of members of my course. In this sense, it provided a kind of opportunity to triumph and also contributed to understanding my experience, which in itself provides me with some respite.

How do you see your work developing? Are there any themes you would like to continue working with throughout your degree?

At the moment, I am working regularly for an online music magazine photographing live concerts and gigs, which is something that I never saw myself doing, so at this point, I am open to my work developing in any direction. I am comfortable enough within my practice to take on anything that is thrown my way. In my university work, I look to move away from documentary, clean styles of photography, which I have always been attracted to as a comfort, and dive into more abstract and interpretative practices. Since moving to London, I have become more politically interested in things such as feminism, LGBTQIA+ rights, equal rights and the environment. These are all themes that I would love to get across in my future work. I am interested in making work that can mean something to someone and that can tell a story rather than work that is just visually interesting.

What are you working on next?

My next university brief is focused on creating a book about anything that you are passionate about. I have not finalised my concept yet, but I am toying with the idea of creating a piece of work surrounding a theory of the soul that my partner and I have. It follows how the soul is present in a physical body and where it may manifest in different people. I am excited to be in a city with so much opportunity for young creatives and am striving to put myself out there in the creative industry.

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Lucy Bentham

Lucy Bentham (UK) primarily works with analogue photography, not limiting her work to a particular category or style. The majority of her work is conceptually driven, revolving around personal themes, seeking a sense of belonging, and reflecting on life's transitions. Influenced by the world around her, she often comments on the personal significance of ostensibly mundane circumstances to form a narrative as an observer and occasional participant. She has a BA in Photography from the University of the West of England and an MA in Photography and the book from the University of Plymouth.

Lucy shares her project Escape Theory: The Experiment.

'Escape Theory: The Experiment' is a project undertaken as a response to my previous project ‘Escape Theory: Sublime’, for which I took a deeply personal approach to exploring the role of the female artist existing within, yet desiring to escape from, the domestic space. ‘Escape Theory: Sublime’ focused on a number of escapes into the landscape during a search for a sublimity I struggle to find in everyday life.

In this project I have explored the characters I employ to make domesticity bearable, as well as sexuality, the feminine, metaphors of personality fragments, anxiety, neglect and decay.

When did your interest in photography begin and what is your background in photography?

My interest in photography began with a love of 'just taking pictures'. I suppose it was an uneducated desire to document my environment and family and friends without questioning whether it would be interesting for anyone else to look at or not. The photos were for personal use; for memory and archive. Then one of my first forays into being more creative with the medium was when I experimented with making self-portraits as different characters - something I have unintentionally revisited for this project.

I have a BA Photography from UWE and an MA Photography and the book from Plymouth University. The projects I made during these courses were very much theory driven; based on photographic theory or psychologies or myth., for example. My work is primarily photographic but is also often accompanied by some form of writing. I also curate photography exhibitions which is a brilliant, practical, break from being overly introspective when working on photographic projects.

Your work is rooted in conceptual photography, often combining image and text to look at domesticity and ideas of escapism. What is it that has drawn you to these themes across your work?

From the time I picked up a camera with project intent I really wanted to be a documentary photographer. I'd see my peers making projects with beautiful portraits and interesting scenes from reality, telling these incredibly moving or fascinating stories about whatever they had studied and I so wanted to do the same, as did most of my tutors, but I found it natural to research and think about a subject until my head exploded, constantly conceptualising something that could eventually represent all of this information. So my work has continued down the path of being heavily thought based, empirical, usually introspective, and research driven...and I still really want to make documentary work! The escapism theme has been intentionally present in my work since 2015, with domesticity joining it in 2016. I work with a lot of binaries, which became clear was reflective of my personality, so I also began to consciously explore these dualities around 2015. The idea of the escape was a good enough subject to base the first escape project on, but I also wanted to know the prompt for the escape; hence the following project to 'Escape Theory: Sublime' being 'Escape Theory: The Experiment'. My combination of writing with photographs is based on research I carried out when considering the affects of each media on the viewer - what can be said in words is much more specific than the ambiguity of the photograph and much can be said in image that cannot be accurately connoted through text, so I often combine the two by way of divulging clearer information.

The theme of mountains as a metaphor for escapism is present in your work. What is it about landscape that is so powerful for you in representation the feeling or longing of escape?

I began my journey into looking at escapism inadvertently after starting a project 'Escape Theory: Sublime' with a very rational, academic, choice of subject I thought would keep me occupied for quite a while: the aesthetic theory of the Sublime based on traditional concepts from Edmund Burke and Immanuel Kant in the eighteenth century, which are deeply based around landscape. My peers commented that the work I was making, which mostly comprised of me heading alone into the landscape searching for the sublime, felt more like an escape from something rather than a search and that was the real starting point of the project. This was the point that the academic rationality partly went out the window and I began being introspective and much more empirical in my approach to making the work. Having consciously been in and out of the landscape for about six months at that point, I had already very much connected with the notion of the power of the mountain, their seemingly infinite ages, strength and ability to overcome my tiny human anxieties, so they remain symbolic in much of my work, whether collections of small rocks or the experience of hiking up a mountain. The metaphor of the mountain is almost always about climbing a mountain, starting at the bottom and eventually reaching the top and I wanted to be literal in my approach by literally climbing the mountains in place of other achievements I wasn't experiencing at the time.

Your artist books, particularly for Escape Theory look beautiful. What is it that attracted you to creating a book of the project? Do you have any advice for people considering self publishing or moving into the book format?

Thank you. Throughout most of my photographic practice I have always considered the photograph as belonging in a book or on a gallery wall but they are two entirely different ways of reading a narrative and experiencing the work and, depending on the project, I usually prefer the idea of a viewer being able to view the work alone, quietly. A book also gives more control to the creator who can be more prescriptive of a narrative and flow of reading. For the Escape Theory artist book I wanted to present the heavily experimental process I took with the medium throughout the project in book form, so the artist book is made out of unique prints and ephemera from these experiments: pieces of super 8 film, 5x4 negatives, photograms, mini zines, and a variety of paper stocks.

My advice to anyone considering self-publishing or moving into book format would be to do it for the love of the book, because a book is what you really want your project to be. Books that are collections of images from a project that is better suited to a wall are catalogues. Once you have decided on your book format, consider the narrative and let other people help with the edit. Listen to what they see when they read the sequencing. Consider the size, style, and layouts. When you are certain you're finished, make dummies, lots of dummies, then a small edition or print on demand through pre-orders.

I lay back as the water turns pink and this millennial is shrouded in a tone that denies her the arrogance to think that she is. That she can. That she will.

And I open to you but you just presume that I nag and I gripe; there's no more room for these feminist rights.

Lights. Long nights. Fights with thoughts buried in my soul and I'm cold. Not from the chill but the lack of will. I'm shut. I'm shattered. Possession is nine tenths and that's all that matters.

The woman doth protest too much. Regrets too much. Regresses and confesses and is not at her best too much.

I'm blue, not pink like they say. And soon I'll be grey and exposed and battered and bruised. Never mind used. Never mind working my way up because I'm down. No longer is the crown in sight, not far from my height. But far, far away in a land that never existed.

I missed it. I risked it. We tried it. We hid it from those around us. Our powers confound us. Compress us. Until completely engorged with the weight of our fates. We implode. We explode to the stars that are not as far as theirs.

But we try.

​And we never give up.

Where do you draw inspiration from for your projects?

Most of my inspiration comes from a lot of overthinking about the most mundane of subjects, especially day-to-day life instances that usually get glossed over. I'm a fan of the ordinary and not a fan of things being made into something considered 'better' - I appreciate the ordinary. Visually, I usually have a bank of ideas in my mind I'm not sure how to make tangible then I'll see something that triggers that set of images into action e.g. a colour or style of typeface, or someone's outfit, or I'll eavesdrop on a conversation on the bus. It all gets written down or subconsciously absorbed then usually transformed into something unrelated in a project.

How do you see your practice developing and what are you working on now/next?

I'm keen to develop my curatorial practice alongside personal photographic projects. I've got a shortlist of some pretty lengthy photographic projects I'd love to get started on properly and I'm trying to turn one of these into a PhD (but I need a studentship!). I always say this, and it is usually difficult to escape from, but I would like this shortlist of projects to come to fruition because they are mostly not introspective.

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Chris J Roe

Chris Roe

Chris J Roe is a photographer based in Hampshire (UK). His recent project (and photobook) Shadows documents his "struggle with depression in an attempt to visually present the inner workings" of his mind.

What's your background in photography? How would you describe your work and how did you get started?

I would say that I started photographing very young. I was brought up by my grandmother who tirelessly documented my early life in an attempt to provide a positive spin on the negative circumstances that brought me into her care to begin with. Over the last ten years I have dipped in and out of photography as my love for it was never consistent until quite recently. I dropped out of a college diploma in photography six months into a 2 year course due to the anxiety of being in a classroom environment (something I struggled with in school and lead to me leaving prematurely there too.) I think I was also still a child mentally. I didn't really appreciate the opportunities I had at college.

I came across your work on Instagram and was instantly struck by your dedication to shooting black and white. What is it that attracts you to shooting in that format?

I sometimes shoot colour images although I rarely share these. There is something simple about black and white that perhaps appeals to my lazy tendencies. I find it much easier to capture a mood, or convey emotion through monochrome. Without sounding too pretentious I think it represents me best. I am a fairly straightforward 'black and white' person and I find it hard to see the beauty that others do in colour....it is almost as though its a distraction to me.

Chris J Roe

Chris J Roe

Your recent photobook Shadows documents your experiences with depression, combining image and text. How did the book come about?

The book, like many other final product ideas had been swilling around in my head for about six months. I had originally intended to offer it as print only as I had been so inspired by many other's zines and books that I got into a bit of a habit of buying but felt that digital first would make sense. Not everyone has the money to spend on books and I feel generally weird about the idea of asking for money for something I was likely to be doing anyway. Regardless I wanted to bring some of my favourites images together to see them contribute to an 'end game' a final process. I always feel there has to be a conclusion.

Shadows is full of often quite bleak images of solitary figures taken amongst the urban city landscape. What is your process for shooting like?

My process for capturing the images in the book is almost subconscious. I don't ever go out with a specific idea of what I want to photograph, rather I let the scenes develop in front of me. I prefer harsh light and shadow so rarely go out on a day when it is raining and despite spending a lot of my weekends in London I am drawn to the alleyways over the brightly lit tourist areas...I am too easily frustrated by the packed streets as I walk fast and tourists just generally get on my nerves (like I probably do when I travel to their countries haha). To be honest almost all of the images in the digital book are taken on my phone...I was fairly far into this project before I started shooting film again so when it comes to editing all images go through a preset on Snapseed to crush the shadows and isolate the subjects the best I can.

Chris J Roe

Chris J Roe

Chris J Roe

What is it that you like about phone photography?

The phone appeals for many reasons. My impatience is satisfied by the ability to not only see the final product instantly but to have such a large live viewfinder that no other camera can offer. I used to enjoy using an X100T for its EVF (electronic view finder) but I got rid of the camera because it wasn’t portable enough.

The phone is always with me and is not intimidating, while I’m not shooting aggressively on the street like Bruce Gilden, my entire ethos in life is to carry the least amount of weight as possible and be swift with my decisions. The phone does all I need it to. This is coming from someone who owned a full frame DSLR just three years ago so I have a benchmark to compare it to but image quality isn’t that important to me. Flexibility is paramount.

I'm curious about the emotional process of making your work. What does it feel like to be shooting these images and are you waiting to construct an image with a specific feeling to it, or recording fleeting moments of strangers?

When I shoot I am usually numb. While I have no real plan when I go out I fall into this sort of robotic subconscious march until I've run out of good light or I've done at least 10 miles and my legs hurt! I think I get immersed in the process to an extent where it becomes almost meditative. It is only when I look back on the images at the end of the day (I try to avoid even looking at them until I have finished as I feel my wins and losses can break the flow discussed above) do I feel something. It is usually a mix of adrenaline from getting something that really resonates with me on a certain level and intrigue about who the person was in the frame. I try to capture a sole figure in the frame, a metaphor for how isolated I feel a lot of the time from others. While I am not a 'loner' I definitely find it hard to connect with other people and spend the smallest amount of time possible in social environments...it's not for me. I think I try to show that with these images.

What function does writing serve for you and what made you choose to combine both image and text together in the book?

Writing was my first love. I used to fill pads of paper with stories when I was younger about my toys going on adventures and exploring the fantasies of a young mind sometimes as a distraction from my childhood. My upbringing prior to living with my grandmother was without love or any sense of recognition so I turned to writing as an act of control. I could create whatever I wanted in my stories and so I used them to escape. While some prefer to storytell solely with photographs, I feel that the written word and an image can compliment each other. Certain emotions lend themselves to different mediums as the best form to communicate them, so I thought why not combine the two.

Chris J Roe

Chris J Roe

What made you decide on a book format for Shadows?

I wanted to communicate the project in an easily digestible way. To be honest the book format just happened to work when I began playing the Apple Pages on my iPad. It took about three hours but I got into a period of deep concentration and before I knew it I had a few less than 20 pages staring back at me. I still feel that the project is not complete until I have a printed copy in my hand though. Only then will it feel real.

What do you hope people take away from the work?

There was no real intention behind the creation of the book other than personal therapy I guess. While I enjoy the social aspects of instagram and value some of the friendships I have made there over the past year or so, when it comes to my hopes for how the project is received by others, I have no particular expectations. If someone were to come across the book and the words and images were to resonate with them on a deep level, I would be flattered but it is hard to gauge how an outsider will view a personal body of work. I think this is the best way to approach a creative work. Do not let yourself be led by expectation or influence and put something out that you would have created regardless of whether you had an audience or not to begin with., then it is honest and genuine....I think people are attracted to that.

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Alice Guardado

Alice Guardado is a photographer currently based in Houston, Texas. She holds a BFA in Photography from the University of North Texas and is currently pursuing her Masters degree at SCAD in Savannah, Georgia. Through photography, she is able to express her experiences to others that might be going through similar complications. Her project Gone was made in response to her parents separation, forcing her to be confronted with memories and recollections leading to emotional instability and anxiety.

What is your background in photography — how did you get your start and what is it that you love about the medium?

I started taking photographs with a small point and shoot given by my mother in high school, where I instantly felt a need to photograph my surroundings. From then, I knew I wanted to pursue a BFA in photography from the University of North Texas. I became passionate about the medium after taking my first history of photography course in college, where I learned about its history, alternative processes, and theories.

How did Gone come about?

The series Gone developed from a need in documenting my emotions towards my parents recent separation. After my father left, I realized his absence was not the cause of my unstable emotions, it was the realization of our distant relationship throughout my childhood. This became the effect of my loss of identity; feeling lost, hopeless, and hollow inside. Documenting these feelings became a way of coping with the struggle.

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Alice Guardadoa

Gone seems to be compiled of fragmented images, combining elements of self-portraits, double exposures and family archives. Can you talk us through the elements of the project and what they represent to you?

The self-portraits are a representation of the emotional component of the work, the double exposures reflect those childhood memories intervening with my current state. There is a sense of duality in the work which is seen through the diptychs. The tangible objects represent an aura of past memories combined with found photographs of my childhood. There is definitely a push and pull effect in my work between the healing process and the anxiety in my self-portraits.

Alice Guardadoa

Alice Guardadoa

Alice Guardadoa

What has the project helped you to work through (emotionally), if anything?

This project has helped me relieve some of the tension and anxiety within myself, although I might still continue to experience some of these emotional factors, they are not as strong as they were before I started this project. In a way, it gave me the opportunity to contemplate on past memories and better identify myself.

How does it feel to share such personal work? What have responses been so far?

Sharing such personal work can be quite challenging and scary at the same time. Initially, I felt self-conscious about showing that side of me, it can become difficult to talk about those feelings, but through photographs I can express them freely in a way where other individuals can come to appreciate and relate to my personal experiences. In addition, demonstrating to the viewer that they are not alone if ever experiencing a similar situation. It is a way to help others cope with their struggles of losing a loved one and at the same time showing that there is hope when facing these personal struggles.

Alice Guardadoa

What are you working on now?

Currently, I am still exploring this subject matter as my thesis project for my M.F.A program. I have always had an interest for exploring my own identity further through photography, and this project has motivated me to continue making work that reflects any mental illness or emotional distress caused by a variety of personal reasons.

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Mafalda Rakoš

Mafalda Rakoš is a photographer based in Vienna, Austria, focusing primarily on social issues and their impact on the protagonists’ realities of life. She holds a BA in Anthropology from Vienna University and is currently enrolled at the Royal Academy of Art in The Hague. Since 2011 she has realised various long-time projects in Vienna and other regions of the world such as the Middle East, India and West Africa. Her project I want to disappear is an in-depth and touching account of those affected by eating disorders. Her photo book of the work is now available to pre-order on her website.

What is your background in photography — how did you get started and how would you describe your approach?

When I was 14, I switched to a high school that was very focused on photography in Vienna. Almost since then, I started to work on my own projects. My approach is very documentarist, but there is often a very close link between me and my protagonists. I mainly work long-term, and have a background in anthropology as well, which has also influenced my practise a lot.

What was starting point for I want to disappear?

I was affected by an eating disorder as well and found that it was a very important subject to talk about. The phenomenon almost only occurs in industrialized countries, and the number of people who are affected is much higher than someone would assume. Nevertheless, it's still highly stigmatized and invisible - I wanted to contribute something to the discourse around eating disorders that shows a less extreme picture and raises awareness that it's less about food and looks and more about a general feeling of insecurity.

C. has been suffering from Anorexia and Bulimia for several years. The picture shows the burn marks she is continously receiving from hot-water-bottles. "I am always cold. I don't know why. I feel that I cannot sleep anymore without this thing, but I always make it too hot.. I don't know why. I guess I don't care."
C. has been suffering from Bulimia and Anorexia since her early adolescence. According to her, she is rather addicted to purging than to being thin. She lives on her own in Vienna and dreams of studying medicine once things are better.

The project is layered with portraits, interviews and documents used to explore the complexity of eating disorders. How did you decide on this approach and how integral is it in representing those that you collaborated with?

Collaborating with the protagonists was crucial in this process. The topic is so intimate that I quickly realized I had to give them all the space and options in participating in the project they could think of. It wasn't easy to let go of control in the beginning, but in the end I am really happy and grateful for how openly everyone shared their experiences with me. I think everyone was extremely brave. Of course the juxtaposition and the project itself are only my interpretation of all this material, but everyone was extremely positive about its outcome. This was very, very important for me.

Ulrike suffers from Bulimia and Anorexia. Her story is long and complicated and reaches back to her grandparent's generation. According to her, food and eating always were difficult topics and her family. The feeling of being to fat has accompanied her since early childhood days - and finally lead her into a mode of life where phases of restrictiveness alternate with those of extreme bingeing and purging.

Even though the disorder occupies a high significance, it is still incapable to shut her down entirely. Ulrike studies at a local Art Academy and hopes to find an occupation in her life that truly fulfills her.

Waiting Room, Vienna 2014. Underlying: a sheet designed by one of the protagonists after a long stay in an clinical institution specialized for eating disorders. "I don't know what would have happened to me if I wouldn't have gone there. It was a very big step. Somehow I am grateful that I had this illness - I learned a lot of things about myself ... that I probably wouldn't have learned otherwise."

What was the process of getting to know those that you collaborated with?

All in all, it took me almost more than a year to find the right way of approaching possible protagonists. In the beginning, I worked with friends and acquaintances (indeed, the phenomenon is very widespread - it wasn't difficult at all to find people who are affected), and then found a self-help group for eating disorders, which I joined and regularly attended. Many of the people in the book are from this group. I found an amazingly inspiring group of people, and a lot of them were willing to participate. The group was really aware of the project and that it wouldn't focus so much on the individual's drama, but more on the phenomenon in general. I think that helped a lot, since people knew each other and had the feeling that they're not having their "coming out" all by themselves.

How long did your spend with each person in the project and how did the project develop into a collaboration?

The collaborative approach kind of happened naturally on the way, and it was different for every person. Some I met on a regular basis and some only once or twice. Usually we would first meet up for a very open interview, which I recorded and transcribed afterwards. Then we thought together about how and with what the person would like to step into the project. Many of them didn't want to be photographed but gave me documents, drawings or sculptures they've made - others were very open about having their portraits taken, and shared everything very openly with me. I realized that this made it much easier for contribute, and that it was crucial that we succeeded in creating a safe space for this exchange. I tried to be as careful as possible when asking difficult questions and their possible triggering effect. Anyhow, I have to say that I also learned that people affected by an eating disorder are not made out of sugar at all - rather on the contrary.

Katharina suffered from Anorexia as an adolescent.

Her mother remembers: "She wouldn’t eat anything anymore, except for apples and pretzels. At some point I started going to the gas station every morning to buy bread rolls – so that we would have them in the house, at all times. In summer we went on a hiking trip. That wasn’t easy. My biggest concern was whether we could buy those damn rolls there – If not, my child would starve."

"This picture, where I am leaning in front of the bathroom is somehow special for me, even though I didn’t think about it when you took it. It makes me think about how often and at what stage I went through this door... I thought I smiled much more when you photographed me, but now the observer can actually really see how I feel. I avoid contact with others, and I am so occupied with food, purging, and sports all the time, it‘s like beneath a glass cover. For me, this is what the picture shows."

What are the most poignant moments for you of making the work?

I think a lot of the most poignant moments happened in the beginning of the project. Sometimes I would meet up with people who were interested in taking part, but after a first meeting they quit and said that they didn't feel comfortable or ready for it. It made me realize that I really needed to create another level of communication in this project and never try to force something, in order to build a solid base of trust. That's when I started to change my approach to a much more collaborative one. Another very important moment always happens when someone who is affected or who is part of the project looks at the book and is completely positive and enthusiastic about it. It feels extremely good to get the impression that the work is really fulfilling its aim, and those who are involved fully support it.

What are your hopes for the work?

At first, I hope that it'll be able to reach people who are affected by an eating disorder, and that reading and looking at it will help to relieve those feelings of shame and loneliness which are so strong in this illness. Further, I hope that viewers in general will reconsider their preconceptions about eating disorders and get a better insight into what it's like to be affected. I think in general everyone can relate to it when presented less about food and more as a coping mechanism. Who does not feel lost, insecure, or stressed some time?

"For me, it shows the ambivalence of food and eating in general. I think the knives look very brutal. It‘s like fighting yourself every time you eat a piece of bread."
M. suffered from Bulimia for almost 6 years, but finally succeeded in overcoming the illness after a long-term stay at a local clinic. She definitely considers herself as not affected by this diseases anymore. Nevertheless, she regularly attends a self help group to exchange with others who are struggling with eating disorders. Marie is an inspirational person for many of them - listening to her optimistic and strong statements often gives other participants courage to work further towards their own self-acceptance.

Do you still keep in touch with those that took part in the project?

Yes, definitley! With some rather loosely, but in general we have a good relationship, and a lot of them were friends of mine before the project.

What are you working on now?

Producing and printing the book is almost like a project on itself, but we're slowly reaching our final destination. For my study at the Royal Academy of Art in The Hague, I am now starting a project about hitchhiking and the highway. It's still very much at its beginning, but probably will prove itself as another technique of disappearing.

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Clary Estes

Clary Estes is a photojournalist from Kentucky, USA. Her work does not merely document a story straight on; rather, it analyses and re-analyses the story over the course of months and years to show the dynamic and complex nature of the stories we live. Clary graduated with a Masters Degree in New Media Photojournalism from the Corcoran College of Art and Design in 2013 she moved to Japan as an Ishibashi Zaidan Photography Research Fellow with Nagoya University for two years. She is now living and working in rural Moldova with the Peace Corps. As a storyteller, Estes’ interests lie in long-term documentary projects focused on underserved, obscure communities. Her work My Diaspora is an attempt to understand her life split in two, the life she lives now and the memories that still feel so real to her.

How did you get into photography and how would you describe your work?

My interest in photography began when I was young, but didn't really take form until I went to college. I remember the first time I picked up a camera was around the age of 12 when my family and I were at a horse race and my mother gave me a camera to stave off boredom. Something clicked that day and I always had the idea of becoming a photographer in the back of my mind. Once I got to college I picked up photography again to cope with the many physics classes I was taking and used it as a creative outlet to address the stress of school. Long story short, I made the slow switch from physics to photography. As I work now I definitely have noticed a few recurring themes. I tend to work with people who are never asked their story, but have an incredibly interesting story to tell. This has me going to VERY rural places all over the world. I also end up working with many elderly people and as a result I have photographed death quite a bit. I even had a friend jokingly say that I was "quite the death photographer" recently and I can't say he is wrong. This can be extremely hard at times. Watching friends die is never easy.

You mention that your work My Diaspora has been a coping mechanism for your first time living abroad. Where were you moving to and what were the difficulties that you were facing?

My Diaspora came about at the beginning and end of my time in Japan. I lived in Japan for 2-years on a fellowship that allowed me to independently work on projects. I started working on My Diaspora because I noticed that my mind always seems to be stuck half-way in another country. I would have moments where the memory of my life and experiences before coming to Japan were just as strong as the new experiences I was having. This is a phenomenon that has continued throughout my life. I typically move a great deal from place to place; every two years I seem to be somewhere new, thus, I am constantly balancing understanding what I had just gone through with new experiences coming in. It can be very discombobulating at times.

There can be something playful but also uncanny about your technique in the images. Can you talk us through how and why you decided on the layering and what it signifies?

The layering of images is my attempt to convey memories that feel very alive within my body. I would pose for a photo in Japan and then take images that I had made while still at home in Kentucky and overlay them onto my body. This is at least how I started the project. The photos in Japan were always in black and white, while the images from Kentucky were always in color. I was trying to show the voracity of my memories by damping down any image made in Japan - like the memory was more real than the life I was living. However, once I picked the project back up at the end of my stay in Japan I started putting overlaid Japan images and myself in the color images I had made in Kentucky, effectively flipping the narrative. For consistency I kept images from Japan in black and white. Now the memories and experiences in Japan felt more real than those in Kentucky. I started feeling more at home in Japan than in my home town.

You're often on the road and traveling — what does photography provide you with when you're far away from familiarity?

I travel because I am a photographer so the reason for living in all these different places is to work on a new project. I use photography to explore the places I am in and to understand them better. Photography is my excuse to constantly be a student.

I imagine the work looks very different in print than on screen due to its 3D feel. Have you exhibited the work, or are you planning on showing it soon?

I have exhibited this project a bit here and there. I typically work in documentary photography and this project is obviously a bit more fine art so I am working with a different audience for it. This is one of the reasons I have only shown it a bit here and there, navigating the two worlds can be a bit overwhelming.

Is there a particular image that is a favourite? Can you talk us through why?

I like the lead image where I am curled up in a ball on the bed with my hand fading out of the overlaid image of my head. It is not the most popular image, but I like it. It is a bit confusing and unclear and maybe even a little uncomfortable, all things that I enjoy as a photographer.

What do you hope viewers take from the work?

I am not sure really. This project was so personal that I have a hard time seeing it objectively. I even have the feeling that the project is not really that good at times. I suppose I hope to try and show a vulnerable side of my self to viewers and maybe they will see a bit of themselves in the project as well.

What are you working on now?

I am working on a project called Those Who Remain about former deportees from Moldova. It is a huge project and has been very tumultuous lately but it is extremely important and I feel very strongly that it needs to be told. For my info, you can go here.

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Danny Day

Danny Day is a fine art photographer and recent photography graduate from the Cleveland College of Art and Design. Through his background in healthcare and through his own experiences, he uses photography to explore and express the complexity and difficulties of mental illness. In his project You & I he revisits his childhood school in an investigation into memory.

Can you remember the first moment that attracted you to photography?

I wouldn't personally say I was 'attracted' to photography, rather, I fell into by accident. In my early 20's I experienced a lot of chest pain, thankfully nothing serious, but of course to me it was, and I've only just recently concluded that it was actually due to anxiety. During that time, I found that taking long walks would help, and on one particular occasion, I took my parents digital camera with me, and my journey with photography began from there. I discovered that it kept my mind occupied, and the outside world transformed from something that just 'existed', to something that I wanted to document, observe and examine. Gradually, my chest pains alleviated, and so too did my anxiety.

How did the fascination with re-visiting your junior school come about?

The truth is, I've held a fascination with my memories from junior school for a long time, even since my late teens. I would say, less of a fascination, more of a fixation. I used to tell myself such a fixation was unhealthy, because how can you move forward in life, when you're stuck in the past? None of those memories would ever let me go, and in a sense I became somewhat obsessed by them. They weren't hurtful or upsetting memories, but rather a collection of moments in time when my childish mind posed questions that, interestingly enough, a child cannot even understand themselves. Those memories, and those questions, have stuck with me throughout my whole life, and it's only now, after being able to revisit the school, have I finally gotten close to being able to provide myself, and my inner child if you will, something of an answer.

Danny Day

Danny Day

You mention that your background in health care (as an Emergency Medical Dispatcher) and your own experiences with depression, addiction and anxiety have led you to create visual works exploring mental illness. What is it that photography provides for you that other mediums or forms of expression can’t?

Photography, I've discovered, is the only medium that provides me with the opportunity to both question and learn about myself. In fact, it sometimes tortures me. Its most powerful images remain burnt into my visual memory, almost becoming a scar that lingers. I have no control over this, instead, I'm left with more questions, than answers. Its stillness and silence demands study, provoking my imagination into filling in the gaps. What can I hear? What can I smell? What do I feel, and furthermore, why? Why am I even looking at this picture? What am I searching for? Why am I searching? What do I hope to discover and learn about myself? The questions never end, and that's why I love photography, or even at times, hate photography for this continuing questioning of self, rather than being able to find comfort.

Danny Day

Danny Day

What did it feel like to be back in that space? How accurate did your memories feel once back in the school?

To be back in that space was somewhat overwhelming. For all those years I'd held onto all of these memories, and suddenly I was left with a stark realisation, quite simply, that I have grown up. My memories were intact, but my experience of some of those memories, were the experiences of a child, and there I was now, an adult. Suddenly, those hallways didn't seem as big and daunting as I remembered, that tree didn't seem as quite as powerful and overbearing as I recalled, those things were still there, but my experience of them, 20 years later, was different. Walking around the school was strange, I felt like a giant, and rather than being back in those memories again, I felt myself watching myself as a child, as if watching the ghosts of my past as they played.

What is the importance of putting yourself in the frame within this project?

Placing myself within the frame became integral to this project. I felt the use of the hand worked well here. My hand, clearly that of an adult, reaching out to touch these spaces and objects once more, in an attempt to reconnect, rediscover, and learn. Accept 20 years later, the lessons are no longer that of Maths or Science, but of the 'self'. One of my favourite images from this series is the one in the bathroom. Everything clearly designed for children, the small urinals, the mirror placed at the height of a child, reflecting my feet. As a child, I always used to play with my hands and feet, being remembered of that, and seeing my own adult feet in this Junior School was a unique feeling. But again, important for the project, to visually represent this idea of 'growth' and 'growing up' - essentially, trying to suggest that ironically, in order to 'grow up' or 'accept' the idea of 'growing up' - I have to return to junior school.

Danny Day

Danny Day

Danny Day

Danny Day

How has You & I changed the way that you think about memory, if at all?

This project has provided me with visual proof, that memories change over time. The memories we have as a child, are just memories, and can only be examined and studied as such. Revisiting a place may provide answers, but those memories can never be re-experienced in the same way. In context of my project here, the issue was simply physical - I wasn't a boy anymore, I was an adult. I'll never be able to re-experience those huge hallways or those towering windows again.

What are you working on now?

I always aim for my work to be very personal and as emotive as possible. My You and I project concentrated on previous experiences of the world. I'm now looking at my current experiences of the present rather than the past. I'm discovering I tend to fly between extremes, I either hate the world, or I love the world! My research is heavily visual, and can be seen through my Instagram account. Recently, my interest has been examining anger, frustration and anxiety. I'm very interested in the combination of image and text, in the context of anger and frustration. I'm experimenting with free writing, writing the first thing that comes to mind when I look at a particular image. Again, serving as a way to question where such anger, frustration, and anxiety comes from, ultimately serving as a form of visual and written therapy.

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Zoe Amanda Jackson

Zoe Amanda Jackson is a London based photographer who recently graduated from Canterbury Christ Church University. Jackson has a keen interest in still life photography and exploring mental health issues within her practice, particularly social anxiety, a condition she has suffered from since a young age.

What was it that first attracted you to photography?

My first attraction to photography was a present I received from my grandparents for my 11th birthday, which was a basic point-and-shoot digital camera. Gradually with help and tips from my Grandad, I would go out with him on the weekends and take photographs of my local park. My interest in photography developed further when I took up photography during my GCSEs, as my life goal at that point in my life was to become a photographer because of the experience of creating these images with my Grandad.

What has your experience with social anxiety been like? Has photography helped you to manage the condition or does it help you to explore your own anxieties?

My experience with social anxiety was difficult when I was a young child. I had trouble trying to communicate, even with the closest people around me. In result, I became very angry and upset constantly. There would be various points in my life where I could not say what I wanted to because something in the back of my mind was telling me not to. Photography has definitely helped me to explore my own anxieties. For my projects, talking to other people with anxiety and documenting how they feel, has let me to talk about my mental health a lot more, especially more openly to my family.

How did Disquiet come about?

Disquiet came about through my interest in exploring personal subjects to myself as I explored family issues in previous photography projects. The subject of mental health is something that I am passionate about exploring and understanding more. I felt the need for more people to know that it is okay to talk about your mental health, regardless of your gender, age or background as I did not talk about these issues growing up in my childhood.

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How did you go about interviewing young people about their anxiety? Was it difficult finding people to be open about their experiences with you?

Before I went to university, I belonged to a support group for people with anxieties based in London. I decided to interview people from the group as I found that they was more likely to open up freely to a person who they knew and had a bond with as we went through the same support together. The people’s names have remained anonymous as requested by themselves, through fear of being judged. Through the still life images I have created, I have allowed them to have this powerful voice to remind people how important it is to talk and think about your own mental health as statistics show, that 1 in 4 of people experience a mental health condition a year.

What is it that you enjoy about still life photography?

I love how through still life photography I can have full control over all aspects of the photoshoot. Especially when photographing in the studio, as the lighting, composition and technical aspects can be carefully adjusted by me to get my images as perfect as they can possibly be. Dare I say, objects are definitely easier to position and compose the way you want them to, than people.

What is your process like — from your initial idea through to shooting and editing a concept?

It takes me quite a long time to think through my initial idea as I try to research thoroughly into the different directions and paths that I can go with my project idea. After I have my idea together, shooting starts straight away with test shoots to see what’s working best for me. To edit down my concept, I tried to get as many people as possible to look at my work as I always want to continue improving my photographs to see if I am going in the right direction and maybe find out things from others that I did not see myself.

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Calendar

There’s a really strong graphical/advertising quality to your work — yet on closer inspection you begin to see details which highlight the anxiety. In Pencils you see the chew marks and in House of Cards its the solitary missing card, which makes me think of the split second of anticipation of something going awfully wrong. When viewers look at your work what it is that you hope they'll take away from it?

I hope when viewers look at my work that they are enticed in by the bold, cold colours portrayed in my photographs. On closer inspection of the photographs as you said, small details begin to appear, as I want the viewer to take away the feeling of ‘everything isn’t always as it seems’. Referring back to the subject of mental health, these two things relate well together as people might seem to be coping on the outside but you never know what’s going on in someone’s mind.

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What are you working on now?

I have just graduated from university so I am a bit slow with project making at the moment but I hope to work on a project soon focusing solely on my own mental health with my family responses but I am not sure what kind of direction that is going to go in at the moment. I hope to use still life again in my next project to see how I can develop my still life/studio skills.

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